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AirAsia flight QZ8501: Aircraft’s behaviour before crash ‘on the edge of logic’

January 3, 2015

… according to expert

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An AirAsia Airbus passenger plane comes

Source of report here.

AirAsia flight QZ8501, which crashed into the Java Sea on Sunday, behaved in ways “bordering on the edge of logic”, according to an Indonesian aviation expert.

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  1. flyer168 permalink

    “AirAsia flight QZ8501: Aircraft’s behaviour before crash ‘on the edge of logic”

    Ewoon,

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    “The AirAsia plane that went missing in the Java Sea was not authorised to fly the route on the schedule it took, according to Indonesia’s transport ministry.

    Flight QZ8501 went missing with 162 people on board whilst flying from Indonesia’s second largest city Surabaya to the city-state of Singapore last weekend.

    “It violated the route permit given, the schedule given, that’s the problem,” Djoko Murdjatmodjo, the country’s acting director of air transport told the AFP news agency today.

    The plane’s schedule had not been cleared with officials, he added.

    It is not clear how the plane came to fly the route without authorisation.
    AirAsia’s permit to fly the route has been frozen and its licence to fly in Indonesia could be revoked as a result of the revelation.

    A transport ministry spokesperson said AirAsia was not permitted to fly the route on Sundays. A spokesperson for AirAsia said the company would cooperate with the authorities’ investigation.”

    AirAsia flight QZ8501 crash: Missing plane was not authorised to fly route, officials say – http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/airasia-flight-qz8501-crash-missing-plane-was-not-authorised-to-fly-route-officials-say-9955457.html

    “The Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501, an Airbus A320-200, plunged into the Java Sea on Sunday while en route from Indonesia’s second-biggest city Surabaya to Singapore with 162 people on board. No survivors have been found.

    The breakthrough came as authorities in Jakarta said that Indonesia AirAsia was violating the terms of its licence for the Surabaya to Singapore route by flying on a Sunday, the day the Airbus A320-200 plunged into the Java Sea, and said they would investigate the budget carrier’s other schedules.”

    Four large parts of AirAsia Flight QZ8501 found, say rescuers; Indonesia may ban Tony Fernandes’ airline – http://www.financialexpress.com/article/industry/four-large-parts-of-airasia-flight-qz8501-found-say-rescuers-indonesia-may-ban-tony-fernandes-airline/25720/

    “Indonesian authorities on Friday questioned whether the pilot had followed correct weather report procedures, and later suspended Indonesia AirAsia’s Surabaya to Singapore flights for apparently infringing the terms of its licence for the route.

    Djoko Murdjatmodjo, acting director general of air transportation, said on Saturday that the transport ministry would investigate all AirAsia schedules from Monday.

    “We are going to investigate all AirAsia flight schedules. Hopefully we can start on next Monday. We won’t focus on licences, just schedules,” he said. “It is possible AirAsia’s license in Indonesia might be revoked,” he added, stressing that was only one possibility.

    Sunu Widyatmoko, Indonesia AirAsia chief, told reporters the airline, 49-percent owned by Malaysia-based AirAsia, would cooperate with the inquiry.

    “The government has suspended our flights from Surabaya to Singapore and back,” he said. “They are doing the evaluation process. AirAsia will cooperate fully with the evaluation.”

    The Indonesian transport department spokesman said AirAsia was frozen from flying the route out of Indonesia’s second largest city because the airline’s Indonesian permit only allowed it to fly four days per week – Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. The fatal flight was on a Sunday.

    It also comes after a disagreement at AirAsia’s office in Jakarta during a visit by Indonesian Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan during which he became “furious” according to a report on Indonesian news website Kompas, because a senior pilot contradicted him over an issue relating to weather information.

    “If there are rules you must obey, do not try to fight back. Can I withdraw your permission [to fly]?” Mr Jonan is quoted saying.

    The licence suspension is the first official backlash from the Indonesian government over the fatal flight in which 149 of its citizens died.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-flight-qz8501-30-bodies-recovered-after-six-days-of-searching-20150102-12gufh.html

    You be the judge.

    Shalom,

  2. flyer168 permalink

    Correct version…

    “AirAsia flight QZ8501: Aircraft’s behaviour before crash ‘on the edge of logic”

    Ewoon,

    Also to share this…

    “The Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501, an Airbus A320-200, plunged into the Java Sea on Sunday while en route from Indonesia’s second-biggest city Surabaya to Singapore with 162 people on board. No survivors have been found.

    The breakthrough came as authorities in Jakarta said that Indonesia AirAsia was violating the terms of its licence for the Surabaya to Singapore route by flying on a Sunday, the day the Airbus A320-200 plunged into the Java Sea, and said they would investigate the budget carrier’s other schedules.”

    Four large parts of AirAsia Flight QZ8501 found, say rescuers; Indonesia may ban Tony Fernandes’ airline – http://www.financialexpress.com/article/industry/four-large-parts-of-airasia-flight-qz8501-found-say-rescuers-indonesia-may-ban-tony-fernandes-airline/25720/

    “Indonesian authorities on Friday questioned whether the pilot had followed correct weather report procedures, and later suspended Indonesia AirAsia’s Surabaya to Singapore flights for apparently infringing the terms of its licence for the route.

    Djoko Murdjatmodjo, acting director general of air transportation, said on Saturday that the transport ministry would investigate all AirAsia schedules from Monday.

    “We are going to investigate all AirAsia flight schedules. Hopefully we can start on next Monday. We won’t focus on licences, just schedules,” he said. “It is possible AirAsia’s license in Indonesia might be revoked,” he added, stressing that was only one possibility.

    Sunu Widyatmoko, Indonesia AirAsia chief, told reporters the airline, 49-percent owned by Malaysia-based AirAsia, would cooperate with the inquiry.

    “The government has suspended our flights from Surabaya to Singapore and back,” he said. “They are doing the evaluation process. AirAsia will cooperate fully with the evaluation.”

    The Indonesian transport department spokesman said AirAsia was frozen from flying the route out of Indonesia’s second largest city because the airline’s Indonesian permit only allowed it to fly four days per week – Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. The fatal flight was on a Sunday.

    It also comes after a disagreement at AirAsia’s office in Jakarta during a visit by Indonesian Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan during which he became “furious” according to a report on Indonesian news website Kompas, because a senior pilot contradicted him over an issue relating to weather information.

    “If there are rules you must obey, do not try to fight back. Can I withdraw your permission [to fly]?” Mr Jonan is quoted saying.

    The licence suspension is the first official backlash from the Indonesian government over the fatal flight in which 149 of its citizens died.”

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/airasia-flight-qz8501-30-bodies-recovered-after-six-days-of-searching-20150102-12gufh.html

    You be the judge.

    Shalom,

  3. flyer168 permalink

    “AirAsia flight QZ8501: Aircraft’s behaviour before crash ‘on the edge of logic”

    Ewoon,

    Also to share this…

    Were you blackmailed like Najis, Tony? – http://malaysiaflipflop.blogspot.com/2015/01/were-you-blackmailed-like-najis-tony.html

    3 Malaysian Planes down and connected to OBAMA.
    WHO ARE THE PLAYERS BEHIND THE BLACK HAND THAT ARE BLACKMAILING NAJIS AND TONY?

    The $2.25 billion dollar reason for the mysterious plane disappearances: Insurance Scam 101 – http://malaysiaflipflop.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-225-billion-dollar-reason-for.html

    Alstom Energy Director, Involved In $4 Billion Bribe, was on AirAsia – http://starshipearththebigpicture.com/tag/choi-chi-man/

    January 1, 2015 by Starship Earth: The Big Picture
    Alstom Energy Director, Involved in $4 Billion Bribe, was on AirAsia Flt QZ8501 [video]

    There’s all kinds of conflicting info coming out about the missing/crashed/found plane, of course, as always. Here’s one take, from DAHB00777. ~ BP

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Once information like this come to light, more and more follows. We have now connected the Alstom Energy Director , Involved in a $4 Billion Bribery Scheme, to Being On AirAsia Flight QZ8501 That Crashed Into the Ocean.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/briton-on-airasia-qz8501/1553934.html

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-06-11/emirates-scraps-airbus-order-giving-boeing-a-multibillion-dollar-opening

    http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/11/19/AirAsiaX-posts-net-losses-of-RM210m-in-Q3/?style=biz

    http://www.dw.de/airbus-shares-tumble-amid-delays-uncertainty/a-18123404

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/airasias-tony-fernandes-sells-shares-in-tune-insurance

    http://www.elp.com/articles/2014/05/ge-buy-of-alstom-energy-business-not-a-done-deal.html

    http://www.alstom.com/press-centre/2014/12/alstoms-shareholders-meeting-authorises-the-sale-of-the-energy-businesses-to-general-electric/

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11378519

    You be the judge.

    Shalom.

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